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Acts Out Of Turn

Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:12 pm by jscouser2002

Why does an act out of turn still stand?

It can easily give the person who acted out of turn a massive advantage.

For example, if the person is in late position heads up and is aiming to bluff at the pot, lets say he went allin out of turn, that still stands, applying pressure back on the person who may have the best hand. A way to look at it is, Lets say the bluffer has 100 in front of him and the person who was meant to act first bets 40, thent he bluffer may think twice about bluffing because the other person may already be pot commited. However if the bluffer puts the allin before the first person puts the 40 in, it gives the person in position one the chance to get out without being pot commited and easily fold, because he may not want to put 100 in to that pot there, and is no longer getting the right odds for the call.

Surely the most logical thing would be, that anything up to that bet is an automatic call by the late better. For example if he bets 10 out of turn then it doesnt stand however, any act up to 10 is classed as an automatic call by the person who bet out of turn. So this then gives the players the advantage of either checking it around or betting whatever they want. The person who originally bet late only gets his right to raise back if the call is more than double what he originally bet out of turn.

I dont see any advantage any player gets long term from someone who bets out of turn having them stand, unless of course they have the nuts or want all the chips in. Surely the advantage would be with the player if he looses his right to act for anything less than 10.

Hope this makes sense?


It happens all the time in tournament and cash games there, people bet out of turn, which can happen as an honest mistake, but its not the way the game is meant to be played so why shud the person who bet out of turn, more often than not get an advantage over the other players.

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